Guess who is most dangerous: Muslim, Jewish, or Christian religious extremists? (by 2008Voter)

This is an original article written by 2008Voter, please visit his blog here.

Here it is:

CNN and the spin on God’s Warriors

CNN Presents God’s Warriors . Despite the all spin that CNN did put into the program the idea to compare Jewish, Christian and Muslim religious radicals is very productive. If we will go beyond what CNN is omitting in its program and we will compare side by side the Jewish, Christian and Muslims “ God warriors” few things will be obvious from that comparison :

  1. “ Muslim warriors” are only religious warriors who are supported by state ( Iran is an example)
  2. “ Muslim warriors” are only religious warriors who operate globally and have a goal of imposing its religion as religion on others
  3. “ Muslim warriors” are only religious warriors who operate in the countries and territories which are out of the historical borders of its religion ( Muslims terrorism in USA and Europe)
  4. “ Muslim warriors” are only religious warriors who are practicing strategy of intentional mass deliberate killing of civilians
  5. “ Muslim warriors” are only religious warriors who have own armies with rockets and artillery : Hezbollah
  6. “ Muslim warriors” are only religious warriors who control entire countries ( Afghanistan, Somalia until recently and Iran today )
  7. “ Muslim warriors” are only religious warriors who are attacking sovereign countries ( Hezbollah attacked Israel)
  8. “ Muslim warriors” are only religious warriors who have under military control entire territories (Gaza , Somalia)

So the whole idea to equalize Jewish, Christian and Muslims is disingenuous .

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38 Comments »

  1. For myself, this is a simple thing. I have been attacked on three occasions by Muslims. Never by any Jews, and never by any Christians.

  2. gasdocpol said

    And God told GW Bush to invade Iraq preemptively?

  3. armilnov said

    How is Bush invading Iraq relevant to facts above?

  4. gasdocpol said

    That was a Christian God telling Bush to make a preemptive strike against a country that was no threat to the USA?

    Tell me where Jesus Christ, GW Bush’s favorate philoopher, secommended the preemptive strike?

  5. 2008voter said

    That was a Christian God telling Bush to make a preemptive strike against a country that was no threat to the USA?
    No it was not a christian God, it was democratic Al Gore who said that Iraq must be attacked and who was blaming first Bush for not attacking Iraq.
    watch the video

    By the way, can you dispute at least one of 8 points listed in the posting?

  6. gasdocpol said

    Check the facts. Gore opposed the Iraq invasion in major speeches starting in SEPTEMBER 2002.

    DISPUTE THAT AND I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR LIST.

  7. 2008voter said

    to gasdocpol:
    1.
    “DISPUTE THAT AND I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR LIST.”
    why do you think i need you to take a look on my list? The list is only for those who are interested in comparison of Christian, Jewish and Cristian “religious warriors ” if you are interested in this topic, and if you are interested to discuss the topic , then be my guest. If you are not, and if the only topic you are interested is “Bush hating” (which is interesting topic and i would gladly discuss it some other time) then please do not look on my list.
    2.
    if you did not take a look on the list yet, then how are you responding on this posting without reading the posting ?
    3.
    if you did read my list and only thing you found to say is about Bushes, then you are really have nothing to say.
    4.
    “Gore opposed the Iraq invasion in major speeches starting in SEPTEMBER 2002.”
    Gore had many flip flops and what is very interesting topic for another conversation. I did refer you to this speech only remind to you that the understanding of danger of Iraq was a common state of thought back then and not just a Bush’s idea.
    5.
    Iraq WAR changes nothing in the topic of “gods warriors” ( again, war in iraq is a topic of another conversation) because all points listed in my posting existed before the war and therefore have nothing to do with the war.
    if war in Iraq would not happened at all, the listed above would still be the same !

  8. gasdocpol said

    Starting in Sept 2000 when the run up to the Iraq fiasco started Gore was , unabiguously unwaveringly against the war and never flip flpped. Please get your facts straight.

    Off the top of my head. Have you ever heard of the templar Knights? The fact that 100, 000 women were burned at the stake as witches during The Spanish Inquisition alone.

    If you actually want to know……. google Victims Christian Faith

    However, i suspect that you do not really want to know.

  9. armilnov said

    gasdocpol

    you will not change subject, not on my blog.

    “That was a Christian God telling Bush to make a preemptive strike against a country that was no threat to the USA?”
    Whether Iraq was or was not a threat is not a topic of discussion here.

    “Tell me where Jesus Christ, GW Bush’s favorate philoopher, secommended the preemptive strike?”

    I asked you a very simple question. I hope you can answer it:
    How Bush invading Iraq makes facts in the posting untrue?

    I am still waiting.

  10. 2008voter said

    to gasdocpol ,
    Your historical erudition is really impressive. Of course I, as everybody else, am aware about history of Christianity. But FYI : we are taking about current or recent events.
    So in addition to facts I listed in my posting few more facts for you so that you could keep them in the top of your head:
    1.today muslim country, not Christian country, is practicing genocide : Sudan
    2. today muslim country until recently officially and by law had slavery : Mauritania
    3. today’s muslim country, not Christian country, has in the sate constitution a stated goal of making Islam a world religion: Iran.
    you need more ? let me know i will accommodate you with more
    But in anyway ,please, do not try to hide yourself behind a history escaping from today’s reality . If you would bother to research history of Islam you would know that this history as bloody as christian.
    Do you have in the top of your head anything about Muslim atrocities such as Armenian genocide, Chios massacre, Muslim slavery (which was way more extensive than Christian slavery and existed way longer than in Christian world and in some Muslim areas slavery is still exists)? All this happened way after Templars and still happening. Would you please bother to research the topic of our conversation and at least to try to be relevant to the topic of the posting , or you are specializing in anti-Christian propaganda and know nothing about anything else?

  11. 2008voter said

    to gasdocpol
    almost forgot about Gore guy:)
    “Starting in Sept 2000 when the run up to the Iraq fiasco started Gore was , unabiguously unwaveringly against the war and never flip flpped. Please get your facts straight.”
    Flip flopping is by definition when you are unambiguously unwaveringly pro something and after some time you are unambiguously unwaveringly against that very something . So, my facts are just fine. Flip flopping is changing the position during the time according to political convenience. So if in 1992 , when it matched his political goals, Gore was demanding attack Iraq and in 2000 when his political goals did change he was against: that it is a classical beautiful flip flop.
    But one more time : it is irrelevant to the topic of my posting.

  12. armilnov said

    gasdocpol

    Knights Templars were dissolved by Pope Clement V in 1312. That was almost 700 years ago. Al-Qaeda, Hezbolllah, Taliban, Hamas and Jamaa al-islamiya, however, operate today in 2007.

    It is actually a great point — just as Templars and Inquisition were vicious 700 years ago, modern-day Muslim extremist armies/organizations are vicious today.

    Thank you!

  13. gasdocpol said

    Now that it is more apparent that maybe invading Iraq maybe was not such a good idea, its apologists rationalize it saying that AT THE TIME everything seemed to indicate that that Iraq was a danger and the invasion was a reasonable thing to do. GUESS WHAT? IN SEPTEMBER 2000, IT WAS AT THE TIME and Gore made the right decision.

    In any case we have a Christian God (at least god one of GW Bush)saying that we needed to invade Iraq and in general, hate Arabs.

  14. 2008voter said

    “Now that it is more apparent that maybe invading Iraq maybe was not such a good idea, its apologists rationalize it saying that AT THE TIME everything seemed to indicate that that Iraq was a danger and the invasion was a reasonable thing to do. GUESS WHAT? IN SEPTEMBER 2000, IT WAS AT THE TIME and Gore made the right decision.”
    May be so but he it is undeniable that Gore contributed hugely in the shaping an opinion that Iraq is a threat, would you deny that ? So, is it not a cute politic, to make work hard to make an impression that Iraq is the threat ,to blames others for not invading Iraq and then after he did succeed in convincing all people around that Iraq is the threat, all of the sudden change his mind? If war in Iraq is wrong the first person to blame is Gore who shaped public opinion on that subject and convinced public that Iraq is the threat.
    “In any case we have a Christian God (at least god one of GW Bush)saying that we needed to invade Iraq and in general, hate Arabs.”
    I am not sure I understood that one. Could you re-phrase? But i would try to respond despite it is a bit incoherent to me :Who is hating Arabs? I do not see it that way US selling weaponry to Arabs, demanding state for Palestinians, bush even tried to sell port to Arabs, and Saudis are his best friends. And all this despite the facts that they did blew up 200 marines in Beirut ,they blew up USS Cole , they blew up and embassy buildings around the world, did cut off head to American journalist , and …. eventually 9/11?
    by the way do you have any comments on subject of the posting or answers on questions I asked? I am just curious:)

  15. armilnov said

    gasdocpol

    you still haven’t even touched the topic.

    the main point remains true, unchallenged by you:
    the only religious extremists, that
    1. are supported by states,
    2. have armies, rockets and artillery,
    3. have killed thousands (if not millions in case of Sudan and Taliban) of civilians on three different continents within past 10 years,
    are Islamic extremists.

    I repeat THIRD time: how is Bush invading Iraq makes 2008Voter’s posting untrue?

    “In any case we have a Christian God (at least god one of GW Bush)saying that we needed to invade Iraq and in general, hate Arabs.”
    what christian god? I and millions of other citizens (including you apparently) do not believe in jesus — who cares?
    also, if you say that to hate terrorists is the same things as to hate arabs, I think you are very wrong. The two are not the same thing.

  16. gasdocpol said

    Jesus is my hero. I do not recall anything in his teaching that even remotely resembles anything in the US foreign or domestic policy during the GW Bush administration.

    If fact, GW Bush seems to be doing just the opposite of what Jesus taught.

  17. armilnov said

    gasdocpol

    “If fact, GW Bush seems to be doing just the opposite of what Jesus taught.”
    so what? how is that relevant to the subject?

    this is not about anyone’s religion or race, not even yours or Bush’s.

    this is about this simple fact:
    the only religious extremists TODAY that
    1. are supported by states,
    2. have armies, rockets and artillery,
    3. aim for worldwide domination,
    4. have killed thousands of civilians on three continents in last 10 years,
    are Islamic extremists.

    so, have you got anything relevant to add?

  18. 2008voter said

    gasdocpol
    “GW Bush seems to be doing just the opposite of what Jesus taught.”
    bush is president of the USA he is not Pope or Bishop, why he would be measured by religious teaching?
    you already impressed us with your historical erudition in your previous comment and now with your religious conviction, so it is time to tell something related to the posting

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  20. gasdocpol said

    No ,but the Bible smackers saw GW Bush saw him as a man with solid Christian values and they not only voted for him but rang doorbells and stuffed envellops for him.

    BTW…. Get ready for the Senate investigations into the Crandall Canyon Mining disaster in Utah and the Bush appointees who were instrumental in relaxing mining oversight and regulations that were responsible.

    Richard Stickler and David Lauriski two more examples of GW Bush appointing foxes to guard the hen house.

    GW Bush is definately not part of God’s plan

  21. armilnov said

    “No ,but the Bible smackers saw… “
    Now you insult all Christians? Is it OK now to call Christians “bible smackers” while defending Muslim terrorists?

    “GW Bush is definately not part of God’s plan”
    Huh? What plan? Are you Moses? Does G-d talk to you in person or something?

    “Get ready for the Senate investigations into the Crandall Canyon Mining disaster in Utah”
    What mine? How Utah mine has anything to do with Muslim terrorism?

    This is fifth time you talk garbage without even touching the subject — which is not Bush. It is like I ask you “what is time” and you answer “Bush is bad”. Are you deaf? I am not talking about Bush.

    This is FIFTH time (and last time) I will explain to you:

    I am talking about this simple fact that the only religious extremists TODAY that
    1. have religious armies with rockets, artillery, and tanks (Hezbollah and Taliban),
    1. are supported by states (Iran and Syria),
    3. aim for worldwide domination,
    4. have killed thousands of civilians on three continents in last 10 years,
    are Islamic extremists.

    But wait, I already know what you will answer: “blah blah Bush blah blah”.

    “bush blah blah bush blah blah”.

    whatever.

  22. gasdocpol said

    Christian extremists are pretty bad because they gave us GW Bush.

  23. armilnov said

    thank you for proving my prediction true.. “blah blah Bush!”

    can you name me a single Christian terrorist army like Hezbollah? NO, unless you think that Salvation Army is a terrorist organization.

  24. gasdocpol said

    How about the American Army that GW Bush has tricked Americans into sending into Iraq to carry out the agenda of PNAC?

  25. armilnov said

    USA Army is American Army. Anyone can join freely – black, white, Christian or Muslim. It is NOT a religious army, like Hezbollah or Taliban, where only Muslims can join.

    As a matter of fact, not only USA Army is not only completely non-religious, it is also completely non-political. Let me explain: US Army readily goes into fight under any President, be it Republican or Democrat. When Clinton ordered Baghdad to be bombed in 1998, Army did just that. When Clinton ordered Marines and Deltas into Somalia, they did just that. When Bush ordered Army into Iraq and Afhanistan, they did just that.

    Army serves American people, not a politician or a religion. You can hate Bush all you like, but Army is free of any racial, religious, or political bias, as you imply in comparing US Army to Taliban.

  26. gasdocpol said

    The Commander-in-Chief of the American Army has said that God told him to invade Iraq. Did he not?

  27. armilnov said

    No, he did not. You are wrong.

    Do you have proof of that? A video? Sound clip, maybe? No! All you have is a word of Palestinian Fatah Parliamentarians who accused Bush of saying that. These are professional liars, murderers and terrorists – consider the source…. I refer you to repudiation of this ridiculous claim by White House:
    “The BBC reported that the White House had dismissed the allegations as “absurd”. “He’s never made such comments,” said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.”

    You cannot deny that whatever our goal is in Iraq, it is not to make Iraq a Christian country, is it? Whatever “evil Bush plot” you might concoct, I hope you do not claim that the goal of invasion is to forcibly convert all Iraqis to Christianity, is it? Whatever the goal of invasion is, it is not a religious one.

    It is, however, a goal of Iran — stated in Iranian Constitution, no less — to spread Islam all over the world. And Iran is the bank roller for Hezbollah, as well as the Shiite militias in Iraq. That is just one example.

    There are no Christian terrorist armies in existence that would be even remotely comparable to muslim Hezbollah, Taliban, Hamas, and Al-Qaeda. Such thing does not exist.

  28. 2008voter said

    i see this picture :gasdocpol is listening a conversation of bush with God:)
    gasdocpol! tell me the truth, are you hear the voices?

  29. gasdocpol said

    June4, 2003 GW Bush told the Palistinian Prime Minister Abbas that god told him to attack Saddam.

    I never said that it was anyone’s intention to makea christian country out of Iraq

  30. armilnov said

    “June4, 2003 GW Bush told the Palistinian Prime Minister Abbas that god told him to attack Saddam.”

    So says Abbas, who is a Fatah terrorist.

    I repeat for you again (this is second time): White House denies that ever happened. This is the link, and this is the quote:
    “The BBC reported that the White House had dismissed the allegations as “absurd”. “He’s never made such comments,” said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.”

    “I never said that it was anyone’s intention to makea christian country out of Iraq”

    You implied it. You said that Bush said that G-d told him to invade Iraq. You implied that Iraq is a religious war, started by religious president. Iraq is not a religious war, because whatever our goal in Iraq is, it is not to change religious beliefs of Iraqis. I (and even Bush, believe it or not) couldn’t care less to what G-d Iraqis pray to. Al-Qaeda, Taliban, Hezbollah and Iran, on other hand, really do care about that.

  31. al said

    i see this picture :gasdocpol is listening a conversation of bush with abbasd:)
    one more time: gasdocpol! tell me the truth, are you hear the voices?

  32. gasdocpol said

    GW Bush “There is a higher father that I appeal to”

  33. armilnov said

    You are again completely wrong.

    The complete quote is:
    “Bush said he did not remember asking the question of his father, former president George H.W. Bush, who fought Iraq in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. But, he added that the two had discussed developments in Iraq.

    “You know he is the wrong father to appeal to in terms of strength. There is a higher father that I appeal to,” Bush said.”

    Bush is a religious man. Is that a crime?

    In your view, it seems, everyone who is Christian should be prevented from ever holding any official position. Those damned “Bible smackers”, in your own words.

    Of course, if it is a “Qur’an smacker” like Minnesota Senator Keith Ellison (D), in your book, apparently, it is OK.
    Read this direct quote in his own words, from his own website:
    “I am inspired by the Qur’an’s message of an encompassing divine love, and a deep faith guides my life every day.”

    Muslim politician — good.
    Christian politician — bad.

    Yeah, I think I have to change what I said previously: Hezbollah would make an exception and accept you into its ranks…..

  34. gasdocpol said

    A. GW Bush does just the opposite of what Jesus taught which would make him a candidate to be the Antichrist.

    B. Jesus said “Render unto Caesar…” which to me means separation of church and State.

  35. armilnov said

    if GW Bush would follow Bible, you would accuse him of being one of “Bible smackers” who does not “Render unto Caesar…” , i.e. does not follow Constitution

    if GW Bush does not follow Bible in his policies — meaning he does “Render unto Caesar…” — you accuse him of being “Antichrist”?

    whatever GW Bush does, he is damned in your eyes…..poor Bush

  36. waqas said

    i love osama bin ladin he is our hero while bush is our foot i want to burn all churches of the world and kill all americans demark peoples

    Reply:

    Thanks for reminding me once again who we are fighting against. Rot in hell, Jihadi.

  37. It helps to remember that the absurd articles of sympathizers and proponents of radical Islam also share the disjointed, distractive, juvenility of their liberal Democratic supporters.

    This post and the ensuing comments serves as an excellent example of how the stone-cold facts mean nothing to people whose minds are too undeveloped and undernourished to comprehend anything past an 8th century view of the world AS WELL AS to those in the West who, though appreciating the mind-candy amenities of a modern world, are also too mentally challenged to realize that “freedom fighters” don’t target schoolbuses, delicatessens, malls, hotels and anyone who educates females, as a rule.

    While radical Islamists and their liberal Democrat sympathizers receive some kind of masturbatory pleasure in their sh*t-disturbing style of irrational arguing, the truth is that mature people of conscience whose brains function at the norm, and above, see them for what they are… it’s not enough that such radical entities convince themselves in their futile arguments and suicides, they are FAILING to convince the larger world population because TERROR doesn’t educate and TERROR doesn’t inspire.

    And, ultimately, with each new, non-combatant TARGETED by terror attacks, the more people who will hate the terrorists. Their killing of innocents is NOT incidental “collateral” damage. It is intentional and frequent and, disgustingly, glorified.

    May radical Islamists and their sympathizers be speedily eliminated in our day so that TRUE Muslims who LOVE their god and RESPECT life-affirming values can get back to a time of worship that is untainted by this cancerous, hateful tumor in their midst.

    REPLY:
    Amen. I agree completely! Thanks for stopping by. 🙂

  38. Well stated Sam.

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